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Originally posted by BuyLoSellHiCat:

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Originally posted by GChawk:

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Originally posted by BuyLoSellHiCat:

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Originally posted by bluechipp:
K-State is not at a place (right now) where they are getting recruits that turn down KU or MU,etc.

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While KU and MU are on more solid footing right now than KSU, you are crazy if you think that said footing will necessarily deter recruits from KSU vs. KU, MU, etc.

If that was the case, why did KSU get some big time recruits with more big time offers? For instance, Bullman turned down Ohio State for KSU. Marvin Simmons turned down USC for KSU.

This post was edited on 1/20 12:05 PM by BuyLoSellHiCat

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Seemed pretty obvious that he was talking about right now and not what happened several years ago

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Seems pretty obvious I was saying KSU never was on OSU or USC's perceived level as a program and that KSU was getting commitments from guys at the top of their board. It further reiterates my point that "state of the program" is one of a long list of factors and it matters a lot to some and not at all to others. To say KSU can't get recruits that would have offers from MU and KU is stupid. With that logic the same could have been said of OSU and KSU 5 years ago. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now.

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Then you didn't address the point he made and diverted the topic to something you wanted to talk about.



Posted on 1/20 4:16 PM | IP: Logged

10-15 years ago K-State got some good players. But, that was with Mangino and Stoops recruiting (for KSU). I don't think BS and KSU can recruit without asst. coaches like Mangino, Stoops, etc. (That was a once in a lifetime for KSU)
Now K-State must recruit kids that were five years old when Mangino and Stoops coached there.
In his last two years Snyder ended LAST place.
It's going to be damn near impossible to catch lightning in a bottle again(Mangino, Stoops, Leach and Leavit)
Even with great asst. coaches BS got ONE conference championship in 17 years. Now with a decent staff it's going to be the same old thing (excitement from beating Arizona for a recruit)
The bar just isn't that high at KSU.
Imagine if KU BB won ONE conference championship in 17 years.

Would KU Fans call the coach a legend?

The schools are just on two different levels.

The mentality is different .

If you disagree I call BS. (Bill Snyder as an example)

Posted on 1/20 3:45 PM | IP: Logged

Originally posted by GChawk: Originally posted by BuyLoSellHiCat: Originally posted by bluechipp: K-State is not at a place (right now) where they are getting recruits that turn down KU or MU,etc. While KU and MU are on more solid footing right now than KSU, you are crazy if you think that said footing will necessarily deter recruits from KSU vs. KU, MU, etc. If that was the case, why did KSU get some big time recruits with more big time offers? For instance, Bullman turned down Ohio State for KSU. Marvin Simmons turned down USC for KSU. This post was edited on 1/20 12:05 PM by BuyLoSellHiCat Seemed pretty obvious that he was talking about right now and not what happened several years ago Seems pretty obvious I was saying KSU never was on OSU or USC's perceived level as a program and that KSU was getting commitments from guys at the top of their board. It further reiterates my point that "state of the program" is one of a long list of factors and it matters a lot to some and not at all to others. To say KSU can't get recruits that would have offers from MU and KU is stupid. With that logic the same could have been said of OSU and KSU 5 years ago. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. Posted on 1/20 3:24 PM | IP: Logged

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