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Originally posted by BuyLoSellHiCat:

Originally posted by Charlie Marlow:
getting rid of Kinsey and his crowd was helpful to KU. maybe the same could be said at KSU getting rid of these guys.


I do know one of KSU's players, one that would be considered a "team leader", said good riddance to Murphy's departure. I think he had a little T.O. to him.

More often than not, I think a player leaving helps a team. I think the departure of Kinsey and Randle likely helped KU in the long run. I don't see there being that much difference here.



1) Comparing suspensions during spring drills to leaving the team is ridiculous. As you have said every program has discipline issues of varying degrees. The difference in this case is that in all likelihood KU's players will be on the field this fall and KSU's will not.

2) The OP post wasn't directed at the long term benefits/drawbacks of such a policy, but to rehash the relative talent levels of the two programs right now. As was pointed out in the original thread by some, many of the places where you felt KSU and KU were equal in talent would probably be hurt due to attrition due to the recruiting practices of Ron Prince. The same thing happened with the transition from TA to Mangino, because of the the way TA ran his program.

Going back to the original point of this thread and the previous one. The current talent gap between KU and KSU is only increasing. IMO this is just another sign that the state of KSU program is much closer to what KU fans have been saying than what KSU fans have been saying. KSU has a big hill to climb and even in a perfect world is probably several years away from even being competitive week in and week out rather than the 1-2 that many KSU fan's seem to think.



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